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Candid conversations with music industry leaders, entrepreneurs, artists, creators, and people pursuing alternative lives. Join audio engineer, punk, and business man Dave Swillum in the thick of pursuing a creative passion in a serious way.
Episodes
Tuesday Mar 08, 2022
Tuesday Mar 08, 2022
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Looking to align
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Choosing to stop touring
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Experimenting to show results
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Being authentic
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Responding to the market
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Tech / Music: Rapid!
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Music industry change to “VC Investors”
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Music NFT’s
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Where to distribute your music as NFT’s right now?
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Access!
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Software is eating the world
Tuesday Mar 01, 2022
Tuesday Mar 01, 2022
E150:
On today’s episode we speak with Boston based founder of Cornerscape artist management, president of Women In Music Boston Chapter, and live sound production leader Kristina Latino. We speak through finding your space in your industry that fits you and your personality, the life cycle of different roles in music, what an artist manager does, and advancing women and marginalized people in the music industry. Great insight on behind the curtains of the music industry, women run businesses, and finding YOUR piece of your industry to be in.
In This Episode We Cover
- Finding your space in your industry
- Life cycle of an artist and different positions in the industry
- Working with great teams
- What an artist manager does
- Artist income streams
- Long term artist career
- Avoiding burnout
- Women in music
- Advancing women and those with marginalized voices in all roles
- More access is needed
- Relationship driven industry
- Show up
Quotes
“You are sewing seeds that you hope will grow and it’s so much more rewarding down the line. It’s a very special community to be a part of.” - Kristina Latino
“Artists can’t devote their career to their art unless they’re able to live on it” - Kristina Latino
“I love the mess.” - Dave Swillum
Kristina’s Links
IG:
@Kristinalatino
@cornerscape_
Kristina’s Business Site
Resources Noted In This Episode
Mark Erelli
Women In Music Site
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!
@davewakeup
Merch To Support Us!
Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)
https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork
Facebook Community to connect to creatives
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/
wakeupfromworkpodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel & Series
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
E149:
On today’s episode we speak with hypnotherapist, illusionist, and writer Michael Mezmer. Michael has traveled the world performing as an act and helping those with trauma with hypnotherapy. Michael is also an author of several books and currently writing new works we discuss in the show. In this episode we talk through the transition period from high school into your passion and getting your first paid gig. Michael shares some extremely wild ways to drum up publicity, build a personal brand, and highlights when to separate your personal brand as your act and yourself in home life and stage. We speak through business design, mindset, and experience.
In This Episode We Cover
- Getting your first paid gig
- Experiencing different cultures around the world
- Taking chances
- Getting publicity
- The transition from high school into your passion
- Being comfortable with not knowing how it will happen
- Separating your personal brand from you as a person when you need to
- The benefits of hypnotherapy
- Don’t over represent yourself
- Building your personal brand
Quotes
“You can’t get attention by being the norm, you have to live out of the norm.” - Michael Mezmer
“You’ve gotta be 100% in. If you have faith in yourself others will have faith in you.” - Michael Mezmer
“There’s so many times where you don’t really know where the money is coming from, you don’t know how somethings going to happen, or even what you are personally going to do yet but somehow it’s going to happen.” - Host Dave Swillum
Michael’s Links
Michael’s Hypnotist Site
Michael’s Danger Magic Site
https://dangermagik.weebly.com/
Resources Noted In This Episode
Tough Times Never Last, Tough People Do
Weebly Website Builder
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!
@davewakeup
Merch To Support Us!
Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)
https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork
Facebook Community to connect to creatives
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/
wakeupfromworkpodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel & Series
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing
Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
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Combining your creative with new business ideas
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Getting a day job that works for your schedule starting your business
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Different paths in the same industry
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Learn as you grow
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Do anything to get the shot
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Analytical verses subjective creative mind
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Enjoying the moment instead of capturing it
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Freezing up
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How to prep your band or business photos
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Knowing when you and a new client don’t work well together
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Pricing your work properly
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Curating the content and input we bring in
Tuesday Feb 08, 2022
Tuesday Feb 08, 2022
E147:
Do you feel like you truly invest in your creative or business? That’s for you to answer but after all the hours, money, blood, sweat, and tears you better be investing in making your creative known. On todays episode I speak to some changes in my actions I’ve made to invest more in my own personal music to give it the chance I feel it deserves as well as some strategies and thought processes for some other pursuing their passions. It’s not worth putting in all that effort to get to the 5 yard line and not getting the touch down (sorry for the bad sports reference) but for real. Today lets talk about getting past some self limiting beliefs behind NOT properly investing in our creative and some ways we can do it in any budget. Invest in your creative! No one else will until you do first.
In This Episode We Cover
- Invest in your art
- Invest in yourself
- Posting once on social then giving up
- Forming a budget for your creative
- Creating a marketing ramp for your launches
- You can make the best art and never have it seen or heard
- You aren’t over posting
- Facebook/Instagram Ad’s to drive algorithm acceptance for your launch
- How do we multiply ourselves?
- Having a release schedule
Quotes
“It takes more than just making your art theses days.” - Host Dave Swillum
“All these brands out there, you bet your a$$, they’re doing it. If they are doing it, we deserve a shot as well.” - Host Dave Swillum
“If you have something you are investing in and you have an anticipated time when you want it to go out, you need to have a schedule of how that’s going to be released properly.” - Host Dave Swillum
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!
@davewakeup
Merch To Support Us!
Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)
https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork
Facebook Community to connect to creatives
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/
wakeupfromworkpodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel & Series
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing
Tuesday Feb 01, 2022
Tuesday Feb 01, 2022
E146:
Every year I tend to do another goal episode when the new year hits. I don’t do it for the novelty but because I change my perspective, shift what works better for the year, or face new things that make me think different of what approach works best for me so I always like to share so you can form what works best for you too. As a very goal centric and action orientated person it can be really deflating for me when my goals aren’t achievable, especially when I make them SMART goals and keep timelines for when they should be hitting. Now I am fine with not hitting my goals but this year was different for me. I am about extreme accountability and feel most things are within my control if I fail which gives me a sense of pride even when things don’t work out for me and control on making my situations better. HOWEVER this year there have been supply chain issues, labor shortages, and inflation I had no ability to predict and paired it with the largest project I’ve ever undertaken so most of my plans are difficult for me to predict. This is what has led me to creating action driven or habit driven goals that move the needle verses end targets to achieve in time frames. I’ve found this is more motivating and still make the same if not more progress towards the same goals but with a new outlook.
In This Episode We Cover
- New way to look at goals
- Going further than SMART goals
- How to create realistic goals to keep your momentum
- Habit driven goals vs. outcome driven
- Factors outside of our control in play with our personal goals with ultra accountability
- Action driven goals for moving the needle
- Written actions
- Keeping momentum and energy with accurate goals
- Goal categories to break down the most important things into habits
Quotes
“Sometimes you’re setting goals you think are achievable but they’re not and every time you try to readjust and you can’t.” - Host Dave Swillum
“Those little things through the bad weeks will make you achieve your F’ing goals. They keep you so you are so god damn consistent on things that are moving towards it that would get lost if you didn’t have those as your goals.” - Host Dave Swillum
Resources Noted In This Podcast Links
Atomic Habits
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!
@davewakeup
Merch To Support Us!
Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)
https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork
Facebook Community to connect to creatives
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/
wakeupfromworkpodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel & Series
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing
Tuesday Jan 25, 2022
Tuesday Jan 25, 2022
E145:
With COVID time’s we’ve talked over a lot of the expediting of digital business but we don’t always get to talk about the physical and brick and mortar. Today we speak to Co-Founder of Z & Z Middle-Eastern Food Co. out of D.C. Starting as a farmers market booth and working a day job in NYC while starting up in D.C. Danny and I have a great conversation about being the son in a first generation immigrant family, parent and family expectations and intention behind career and business choices, always having a “hustle”, family business, and starting a brick and mortar in 2021. Great story for those pursuing any type of business but added information about those setting up physical products and working for the side hustle in.
In This Episode We Cover
- Nostalgia in your countries foods and flavors
- Living and studying in other countries and the difference in cultures
- Getting outside your comfort zone
- Figuring out a new country from scratch
- Not being afraid of losing your job anymore
- Growing up in a first generation immigrant family
- Always having a hustle growing up
- Getting 4 strikes at work
- Prepare for the worst
Quotes
“ I landed in an airport in a country I didn’t speak a single word of the language in a country I didn’t know a single person and what’s the worst thing that’s going to happen? I’ll figure it out.” - Danny Dubbaneh
“ I actually have no fear of being fired, it would be really crappy and it would stall me with what I’m up to in capital but it wouldn’t ruin my life.” - Host Dave Swillum
“ Everyone say’s it’s not going to happen to us, it always takes twice as long, costs twice as much, it’s going to happen to you so just plan for the worst and hope for the best.” - Danny Dubbaneh
Danny’s Link’s
Website
IG
https://www.instagram.com/zandzdc/
Resources Noted In This Podcast Links
How I Built This Podcast W/ Guy Raz
https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510313/how-i-built-this
David Goggins
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!
@davewakeup
Merch To Support Us!
Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)
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Facebook Community to connect to creatives
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wakeupfromworkpodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel & Series
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing
Tuesday Jan 18, 2022
Tuesday Jan 18, 2022
E144:
Boston based singer/songwriter Andrew Geano and I sit down to speak over life as an artist through COVID times, differences between recording your own music at home and working with a pro studio, covers verses originals, process, and the value in authenticity and lo fi experiences. In this episode learn what it takes to properly balance the gig life with a day job and how to conquer unwanted pieces of the process. Music, day to day life, and what can happen in the Boston music scene.
In This Episode We Cover
- Recording your own music through initial COVID lock downs
- Differences between recording your own songs and recording at a pro studio
- Authenticity in your creative
- Human element verses polished and perfect
- When is it time to go to a professional studio?
- Cover gigs vs originals
- Writing process
- Creative doesn’t always have to be real or make sense
- Consuming new music and art even when you may not like it at first
Quotes
“ When it comes to demo’s even if they don’t have the studio polish to it, there’s a certain charm that comes from lo fidelity that comes from demos.” - Andrew Geano
“ Hearing someone saying your lyrics back at your face when you are at a new venue in a new place you are like “What the F$#$* is happening!?”. - Host Dave Swillum
“ Theres not such thing as a wasted moment when it comes to consuming new art.” - Andrew Geano
Andrew’s Link’s
Website:
New Song!
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4LeIRPuCY1Wx06h9Sm6GIF?si=CGkboGj_QDy8kv1-i75aJg&nd=1
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!
@davewakeup
Merch To Support Us!
Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)
https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork
Facebook Community to connect to creatives
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wakeupfromworkpodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel & Series
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing
Tuesday Jan 11, 2022
Tuesday Jan 11, 2022
E143:
Speaking with singer-songwriter Steve Maher Boston born and Chicago / Denver raised in his career. On this episode we speak through his time transitioning through COVID to a new city as an artist, creating income and sustaining band members by treating your band as a business, AI in music production, and humoring life in general. We speak through the music industry but add in plenty of useful points for business owners and creatives of all kinds.
In This Episode We Cover
- Adapting to high elevation levels as a singer or musician
- Music career through Covid transitions
- Moving to new cities and adapting your sound
- Doing things with poor vision and vision defects
- Sustaining income for your band members
- A band is a business
- Creating revenue from your art so you can sustain it
- Forming your team
- Behind the scenes to make a show go well and keep the project going
- Humoring life and bringing that to your art
- You can only control your actions
- When to play and when to work
- Engaging with your inner child
- AI in music
Quotes
“Everyone want’s it to be just about the music, of course I want that but if you want to make it your life you have to form processes that bring in revenue.” - Steve Maher
“If you don’t laugh you’ll cry” - Steve Maher
“You can only control your actions and what you do, and how to respond to things.” - Steve Maher
Resources Noted In This Podcast Episode
The Honey Hounds
https://www.honeyhoundsmusic.com/
The Green Mill Jazz Club in Chicago
Suggester: Chords and Scales
Chords AI
Steve’s Links
Steve’s Site
https://www.stevemarzmusic.com/
Steve’s Press Kit
https://kitcaster.com/steve-maher/
Night Routine Link
https://linktr.ee/nightroutine
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!
@davewakeup
Merch To Support Us!
Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)
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wakeupfromworkpodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel & Series
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing
Tuesday Jan 04, 2022
Tuesday Jan 04, 2022
E142:
Have you heard about this out and about but someone explained it really poorly or using just buzzwords so you were like......I'm all set?
On this episode I’m hear to explain what NFT’s are in a very digestible and example driven way so YOU can decide what role they will play in your life. I am not a pro in this space and if you are one this episode most likely isn’t for you. If you do know what they are but want to look into some ways to use them jump to 3/4 through this episode and there is still relevant info for you. Overall I think this is an AMAZING opportunity for creatives to create new revenue streams from things they are already doing. Very excited for what we can build on this already interesting and engaging tech out there.4
In This Episode We Cover
- What is a freakin NFT?
- One of a kind
- What is the blockchain? Why does it matter?
- Digital scarcity for the first time for real
- New revenue streams for artists and creatives
- Selling digital assets
- You don’t need to understand everything to utilize this tech
- Smart contracts
Quotes
“ There’s just something to the world from being able to show “I own this” that hasn’t been possible before for real in digital assets.” - Host Dave Swillum
Resources Noted In This Podcast Episode
Emily Aborns Site
Open Sea
Sound XYZ
Rareible
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
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@davewakeup
Merch To Support Us!
Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)
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Youtube Channel & Series
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing